Τι χρειάζεται για να πάρω το Budgie μου στη Γερμανία;

Διάβασε αυτό το σχετικό θέμα. Ειδικά το ποστ #3 από @Vada
https://portal.petbirds.gr/space/parrots/post/ti-chreiazetai-gia-na-na-paro-to-zako-maz-xf-48538

Ξεκίνα επικοινωνώντας με την αεροπορική εταιρεία. Θα μείνεις καιρό στο εξωτερικό ή αν είναι για λίγο, μπορείς να τα αφήσεις στην φροντίδα συγγενή ή φιλικού προσώπου;

Η Aegean δεν δέχεται απ όσο κατάλαβα.
Θα πάω μόνιμα!

99% καμια αεροπορικη δεν θα επιτρεπει την μετακινηση πουλιων οποτε η επικοινωνια με την οποια εταιρεια ειναι μονοδρομος
στο παρελθον εχουν υπαρξει πολλα τετοια ερωτηματα και απαντησεις με παραπομπες .

https://portal.petbirds.gr/space/canaries/post/aeroporiko-yperatlantiko-taxidi-me-ta-ka-xf-46198

https://portal.petbirds.gr/space/parrots/post/aeroporiko-taxidi-me-ta-papagalakia-xf-46860

https://portal.petbirds.gr/space/parrots/post/ti-kloubi-epitrepetai-sto-aeroplano-xf-37194

gemini answer ..generic βεβαια αλλα προς την σωστη κατευθυνση :-)

While there isn't a harmonized EU-wide regulation specifically for traveling with pet birds like budgies between member states, including Greece and Germany, here's a breakdown of the limitations and requirements you'll likely encounter:

General Considerations:

• Airline Policies are Key:The most significant limitations will come from the specific airline you choose to fly with. Each airline has its own regulations regarding the transport of live animals, including the species, size and weight of the carrier, and whether they can travel in the cabin or as checked baggage. 1 1. Travelling with pets | AIA - Athens Airport www.aia.gr
• In-Cabin vs. Checked Baggage:
  • Many airlines allow small birds like budgies to travel in the cabin, provided their carrier meets specific size and weight restrictions (typically a combined weight of pet and carrier around 8-10 kg and dimensions that fit under the seat).
  • Transporting animals in the cargo hold has more stringent requirements for the carrier (sturdy, well-ventilated, leak-proof) and may not be suitable for small birds due to potential stress and temperature fluctuations. Some airlines might not even allow birds in the hold on international flights.
• Carrier Requirements:Airlines will specify the type and size of the carrier. It must be:
  • Well-ventilated on at least three or four sides.
  • Large enough for the budgies to stand, turn around, and lie down comfortably.
  • Leak-proof with an absorbent bottom.
  • Securely latched to prevent escape.
• Number of Birds per Carrier: Some airlines may allow two small, compatible birds to travel in the same carrier if the total weight and size limits are not exceeded.
• Health and Documentation:
  • While the EU Pet Passport system primarily applies to dogs, cats, and ferrets, you will likely need a veterinary health certificate for your budgies. This certificate, issued by an official veterinarian in Greece, confirms the birds are healthy and free from disease. The certificate may have a limited validity period before travel.
  • It's crucial to check the specific requirements of the German authorities, although within the EU, the focus is often on the health certificate from the origin country.
  • Some airlines might require additional documentation or have specific forms you need to complete.

• Airline Restrictions on Bird Species: While budgies are generally small and non-aggressive, some airlines might have restrictions on transporting certain bird species.
• Number of Pets per Passenger: Airlines often limit the number of pets a single passenger can travel with. This could mean you might only be allowed to bring one carrier with the two budgies.
• Seasonal Restrictions: Extreme temperatures can sometimes lead to restrictions on transporting animals in the cargo hold, though this is less likely to affect birds traveling in the cabin.
• Quarantine (Less Likely within EU): Generally, there are no quarantine requirements for pets traveling between EU countries if the correct health certificates are in order. However, it's always best to double-check the latest regulations.

1. Contact Airlines Directly:This is the most crucial step. Contact several airlines that fly from Greece to Germany and inquire about their specific policies for transporting small birds in the cabin. Ask about:
   • Whether they allow budgies in the cabin.
   • Size and weight restrictions for the carrier.
   • The number of birds allowed per carrier and per passenger.
   • Any required documentation beyond a standard health certificate.
2. Consult a Veterinarian: Obtain a veterinary health certificate for your budgies well in advance of your travel date. Discuss any specific health requirements for traveling with birds to Germany.
3. Check German Regulations: While EU rules aim for harmonization, it's wise to check the official German regulations regarding the import of pet birds to ensure there are no additional national requirements.
4. Prepare the Carrier: Ensure you have a suitable carrier that meets the airline's specifications and allows your budgies to travel comfortably and safely. Acclimate them to the carrier before the journey.

Ακριβώς το ίδιο χθες με chat gpt😅
Ότι μαθαίνουμε καλό είναι.
Θέλω με σιγουριά να ξέρω🥲

filomathis:

99% καμια αεροπορικη δεν θα επιτρεπει την μετακινηση πουλιων οποτε η επικοινωνια με την οποια εταιρεια ειναι μονοδρομος στο παρελθον εχουν υπαρξει πολλα τετοια ερωτηματα και απαντησεις με παραπομπες .

το link https://www.aia.gr/en/traveller/travelling-with-pets το αξιοποιησες? σε παραπεμπει και προς τις γερμανικες αρχες
Δεν εχεις να ρωτησεις τις αεροπορικες μονο αλλα και να διευκρινησεις εκ των προτερων τα της υποδοχης pet birds απο αλλο μελος της ενωσης. τι απαιτουν τι χρειαζεται
υπαρχουν λογοι για τα αυστηρα μετρα δεν ειναι τυχαιοι οι κανονες
θα σε συμβουλευα να κανεις και μια διερευνηση του σεναριου να μην μπορεις να τα παρεις μαζι σου
Καλη συνεχεια στις επικοινωνιες με τους καθ υλην αρμοδιους να σου απαντησουν.οπως υπολογιζω απο αυτα που διαβασα και βλεπω να ισχυουν μαλλον ελλαδα θα μεινουν.