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Αδιαθεσία και πρήξιμο πρόλοβου σε Μονκ – Έχει τύχει σε άλλον;

Καλησπέρα σε όλους. Για όσους θυμούνται έχω έναν παπαγάλο μονκ που είναι δύο χρονών περίπου τον Μπομπο. Ξαφνικά σήμερα ο Μπομπος δεν είχε όρεξη ούτε να πετάξει, ούτε να μιλήσει τπτ. Το καλό είναι ότι έτρωγε κ έπινε. Κάθονταν με τα πούπουλα φουσκωμένα κ ήταν συνέχεια σε λήθαργο. Επίσης κοιμόταν κ με το κεφάλι μέσα στα πούπουλα που δεν το κάνει ποτέ!
Οπότε τον πήρα κ γώ κ τον πήγα στον πτηνιατρο. Πήρε δείγμα απ τις κουτσουλιές του κ τις είδε στπ μικροσκόπιο κ είπε ότι όλα καλά. Ύστερα ο Μπομπος έκανε εμετό κ τον εξέτασε κ είδε ότι είναι πρησμένος ο προλοβος του. Μου είπε ότι αυτό μπορεί να οφείλεται σε διάφορους λόγους. Μου έδωσε δύο σιρόπια να δίνω για 6 μέρες. Είπε μέσα σε δύο μέρες πρέπει να χει βελτιωθεί. Έχει τύχει σε κάποιον κάτι ανάλογο; Πως εξελίχθηκε; Απλά ανησυχώ πολύ!
Ευχαριστώ πολύ εκ των προτέρων!

Stavros

Είπε ο γιατρός ποιοι μπορεί να είναι αυτοί οι λόγοι που πρήστηκε ο πρόλοβος; Σου εξήγησε τι υποψιάζεται ή τι αποκλείει; Επίσης, μπορείς να μας πεις ποια είναι τα δύο σιρόπια που σου έδωσε; Θα βοηθήσει να καταλάβουμε καλύτερα τι αντιμετωπίζει και αν έχει τύχει σε κάποιον άλλον παρόμοια περίπτωση.

Giouli02

@Stavros είπε ότι υπάρχουν 3 λόγοι. 1 να είναι ένας ιός που εκεί είναι δύσκολα τα πράγματα, 2 να έχει φάει κάποιο ξένο αντικείμενο και 3 να τον πείραξε η τροφή. Τα σιρόπια θα τα αναφέρω όταν γυρίσω σπίτι γτ δεν θυμάμαι πως τα λένε. Το ένα σίγουρα είναι το priperan. Και τα δύο είναι για ανθρώπινη χρήση. Τα πήρα απ το φαρμακείο

Stavros

Giouli02:

1 να είναι ένας ιός
Μάλλον PDD.

https://portal.petbirds.gr/space/articles/post/nosos-diatases-prolobou-ton-ptenon-pdd-xf-12812

Giouli02

Αυτά είναι τα σιρόπια

filomathis

https://www.galinos.gr/web/drugs/main/drugs/peptonorm

Πτηνιατρος ή γαστρεντερολογος ήταν?
:-)
Δοσολογικο σχήμα σου είπε ?

Giouli02

@filomathis δεν καταλαβαίνω αν το σχολείο είναι ειρωνικό ή κανονικό. Πτηνιατρος είναι. Εννοείται μου είπε πόσο πρέπει να παίρνει!

filomathis

The safety of metoclopramide hydrochloride monohydrate in parrots is not well-established and requires careful consideration due to limited specific data and documented adverse effects in avian species.

Metoclopramide is a dopamine D2-receptor antagonist used as an antiemetic and gastroprokinetic agent, primarily studied in mammals like dogs and cats, but its use in birds, including parrots, is off-label and less documented.Key Points on Safety in Parrots:Documented Adverse Effects in Birds:A case study involving a 4-year-old blue and gold macaw (a type of parrot) with proventricular dilatation syndrome reported severe adverse reactions to metoclopramide hydrochloride. After the second dose, the macaw developed ataxia, torticollis, and opisthotonos (neurological symptoms including loss of coordination, neck twisting, and severe muscle spasms).

These symptoms were reversed with diphenhydramine, but the bird died days later, possibly due to underlying disease. This suggests potential central nervous system (CNS) toxicity in parrots at certain doses.In chickens, metoclopramide at high doses (50–200 mg/kg, subcutaneous) caused dose-dependent CNS depression, including sedation and loss of righting reflex (sleep), lasting 37–163 minutes. Lower doses (5–10 mg/kg) reduced activity and increased immobility, indicating sedative effects. These findings in chicks suggest parrots may also experience CNS depression, though specific parrot data is lacking.Pharmacological

Effects:Metoclopramide stimulates upper gastrointestinal (GI) motility without affecting gastric, pancreatic, or biliary secretions and increases lower esophageal sphincter pressure, which can help with conditions like delayed crop emptying or gastroesophageal reflux. It has been used in poultry for delayed crop emptying and in Hispaniolan parrots to enhance GI motility, indicating potential therapeutic benefits.However, its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier and block dopamine receptors can lead to CNS side effects, such as sedation, hyperactivity, or neurological symptoms, which may be more pronounced in sensitive species like parrots.Contraindications and

Cautions:Metoclopramide is contraindicated in animals with GI obstruction, perforation, or hemorrhage, as it may worsen these conditions. It should also be avoided in animals with a history of seizures or pheochromocytoma due to the risk of lowering the seizure threshold or causing hypertension. These contraindications likely apply to parrots.In mammals, side effects include restlessness, hyperactivity, disorientation, and constipation, with more severe effects like aggression or neurological issues at high doses. Parrots may be more susceptible to neurological side effects, as seen in the macaw case.Lack of Parrot-Specific Data:While metoclopramide has been used in some avian species (e.g., poultry and Hispaniolan parrots), there are no comprehensive studies on its safety, dosing, or efficacy specifically in parrots. The macaw case suggests significant risks, and the chicken study indicates dose-dependent CNS effects, but these cannot be directly extrapolated to parrots due to species differences.Dosing recommendations for parrots are not standardized. In poultry, doses are tailored for delayed crop emptying, but no specific parrot guidelines exist. Overdosing increases the risk of severe side effects, including neurotoxicity.Veterinary Oversight:Metoclopramide is not FDA-approved for veterinary use, including in birds, but is used off-label in veterinary medicine. Its administration in parrots should only occur under strict veterinary supervision, with careful monitoring for side effects like sedation, disorientation, or neurological symptoms.If prescribed, the lowest effective dose should be used, and the parrot should be monitored for adverse reactions, especially within the first few hours after administration, as effects typically onset within 1–2 hours.

Recommendations:Consult a Veterinarian: Due to the potential for severe side effects, metoclopramide should only be used in parrots under the guidance of an avian veterinarian. They can assess the bird’s condition, determine if metoclopramide is appropriate, and calculate a safe dose based on the parrot’s weight and health status.Monitor Closely: Watch for signs of CNS depression (drooping head/wings, reduced motility, closed eyelids), neurological symptoms (ataxia, torticollis, spasms), or behavioral changes (hyperactivity, disorientation). If these occur, stop the medication and contact a veterinarian immediately. Diphenhydramine may reverse some neurological effects, as seen in the macaw case.Consider Alternatives: Depending on the condition (e.g., vomiting, delayed crop emptying), safer alternatives like cisapride (if available) or supportive care (e.g., fluid therapy, dietary adjustments) may be considered. Discuss these with your veterinarian.Storage and Administration: If prescribed, store metoclopramide in a light-resistant, tightly sealed container at room temperature (20–25°C). Follow the veterinarian’s dosing instructions precisely, as incorrect dosing can lead to toxicity.Conclusion:Metoclopramide hydrochloride monohydrate is not definitively safe for parrots due to documented neurological side effects in a macaw and CNS depression in chickens, alongside a lack of parrot-specific safety data. While it may have therapeutic benefits for GI motility disorders or vomiting, the risk of adverse effects, particularly at high doses, is significant. Use in parrots should be approached with extreme caution, only under the supervision of an avian veterinarian, and with close monitoring for side effects. If you suspect an overdose or adverse reaction, seek emergency veterinary care immediately.If you have a specific parrot and condition in mind, please provide more details, and I can tailor the response further or search for additional information if needed.